I had not really thought about this detail until now. Didn’t think twice about a kicked in door, it doesn’t seem out of place in a crime, just something you kind of read through. However, do we think that the perpetrator kicked in the door for an element of surprise? (I think that is with most cases) Or possibly that they knew the family would not let them in/already tried knocking/ringing the bell and the family went to hide because they knew who the perp was. The only reason I see the perp killing the parents IF this was only about Jayme (which I do not know how I feel about that), is if they could recognize/name him. Most of children that are kidnapped, their parents are left completely fine. Or if they DIDNT know the perp, the perp had a reason to be very angry with the parents. I still do not know what I think fully about this case. I’ve read everything on r/JaymeCloss but would love to hear any and all opinions/theories. This is my first post ever sorry if it rambles on.
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This kind of stuff goes down really fast and I am sure most people panic and don't always make the most logical move. On the part of the father, confronting the intruder might have been his only choice if he couldn't get to his guns in time. Or it might have been a reflex action to go towards the intruder rather than pick a different strategy. Because he may not have had time to do something else. In hindsight, maybe he could have run for the daughter's room and put her out the window and told her to run then taken his stand there. Who knows. But he didn't have the luxury of thinking through scenarios. Most people go into flight or flight mode. For men, it is usually fight mode by instinct and for women flight mode. So he confronted the intruder and they hid. For the mother and daughter, hiding in a room and locking the door, like the bathroom, might have been a panic instinct rather than trying to get to guns that they may not have been comfortable using or loading or that they weren't sure they could get to in time.
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You make a great deal of sense, but I don't see how this explains him being found near the front door. The door was either kicked or shot in or both. You wouldn't run toward a door that was just forcefully opened in the middle of the night, without a firearm in hand. And if James was answering a knock at the door that he didn't perceive to be threatening, wouldn't there be time enough, after it became threatening, to at least take several steps away from the door?
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A lot of people don't keep their guns accessible. Especially if they have children in the house. Some people keep them locked up or unloaded. They don't think about it that if someone breaks in, they may only have seconds to get to their gun and load it if needed. Those people won't be able to do that before the intruder can get to them. Just having a gun in the house is not enough. You have to be able to get to it before they get to you. If you want, time how long it would take you to open your front door and then run into the hallway of your house or even the bedroom. That is how long the Closs' had to react to somebody breaching their door. Very likely when that door was breached, any gun he kept in the house that wasn't within reach of him was of no use to him at all.
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You make a great deal of sense, but I don't see how this explains him being found near the front door. The door was either kicked or shot in or both. You wouldn't run toward a door that was just forcefully opened in the middle of the night, without a firearm in hand. And if James was answering a knock at the door that he didn't perceive to be threatening, wouldn't there be time enough, after it became threatening, to at least take several steps away from the door?
My first post on here. Have been following since day 1. Not sure if this is allowed but in the early days there was a phone interview with a family member with I beleive it was cbs and it was stated the door was shot in. After that phone interview the family went silent with media until aunts spoke. It was said the LE didn’t put a gag order but asked family not to speak due to integrity of the investigation. Ie(things accidently being leaked LE don’t want leaked because only shooter and LE know) the interview was in the very early days. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong or maybe the family missstated incorrectly. I beleive that interview was posted on this thread way back but have read so much since then. I have for most part only read this thread.

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Do you think if he was shot through the door that that is something LE would keep under wraps? Because I think they would have said that, unless they had a reason not to. I definitely agree that the gun shot startled Jayme and Mrs. Closs. Is it known that they both were in the bathroom? Weren’t all the phones plugged in in the kitchen? Or did Mrs. Closs have hers? I know Jaymes was in the kitchen.
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We don't know what the situation was in that house or what the situation was with their guns. The mother and daughter might have had some familiarity with guns but that doesn't mean they would know what to do in a panic situation. Guns are something that have to be almost an automatic conditioned response for someone to be really comfortable using them in an emergency. That takes many hours at the range. Preferably hundreds of hours of shooting. At least dozens of hours. Most women aren't that interested in them to put in that kind of time with them. Frankly they bore me and I go to the range because my SO drags me there and makes me practice sometimes.

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I realized after I wrote the post that I had forgotten about the time of night. Totally agree that someone knocking at 1am would certainly have them more on guard. This also is a small friendly town though. I think the only way that they would’ve KNOWN something was really off was if they recognized the person. I could be wrong, but Barron seems like the kind of town where if someone came and asked to use your phone because their car broke down, or your neighbor rang your bell late at night because of an emergency that most people would be happy to help. But i definitely agree that a family more in the country may grab a gun to check the door late at night just to be safe not even thinking anything is wrong.
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A lot of people don't keep their guns accessible. Especially if they have children in the house. Some people keep them locked up or unloaded. They don't think about it that if someone breaks in, they may only have seconds to get to their gun and load it if needed. Those people won't be able to do that before the intruder can get to them. Just having a gun in the house is not enough. You have to be able to get to it before they get to you. If you want, time how long it would take you to open your front door and then run into the hallway of your house or even the bedroom. That is how long the Closs' had to react to somebody breaching their door. Very likely when that door was breached, any gun he kept in the house that wasn't within reach of him was of no use to him at all.
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